The Dungeons & Dragons Insider Package:


A weekly magazine, articles, strategy, as well as character and DM tools. Take a peek at what D&D Insider is going to offer.

The Dungeons & Dragons Insider Package will include:

A D&D Insider Magazine, an online magazine with new content updated daily, including:
•Product Previews (articles showcasing upcoming D&D products)
•Class Features (articles expanding existing character class options and debuting new character and prestige classes)
•Strategy and Tactics (articles relating to D&D roleplaying combat and spellcasting, and to D&D Miniatures Skirmish play)
•Design and Development including articles and columns exploring the many facets of the D&D experience, written by game designers in D&D R&D)
•D&D Humor (comic strips devoted to the D&D experience)
•D&D Product Enhancements including expanded content for D&D products you bought, including interactive content such as searchable indexes, extra features, behind the scenes articles, game designer and developer commentary, and more.

Dungeons & Dragons Insider Prices
•12 Months = $59.40 ($4.95 per month)
•3 Months = $19.95 ($6.65 per month)
•1 Month = $7.95 ($7.95 per month)

Unlimited access to rules database
D&D Insider assumes that a subscriber owns every product that WotC has published. As long as you subscribe, you’ll have complete access to everything in the rules database. WotC will still offer pdf’s of 4e books for sale separately.
Members will have access to the full suite of character creation tools including 50 save slots for character sheets and virtual miniatures.
Receive all Dragon and Dungeon magazine content as released, and a compiled monthly pdf.
Unlimited access to the D&D virtual game table and other community features.
As a limited time offer at sign up, members will get complete set of online minis and dungeon tiles.
In a combination of the ‘subscription’ and ‘microtransaction’ models, individual minis and tiles will be available for separate purchase. However, you don’t need to purchase D&D minis to play.
All members will have included access to the entire WotC collection of 2d tokens.

Exclusive Content that expands your favorite campaign world
•Eberron and Forgotten Realms ongoing content
•Interactive maps
•World events and adventure hooks

D&D University
•Rolling six-week course to help make you a better D&D player
•Course message boards
•Player tip of the week from D&D R&D
• MyCharacter.Com pages that you can design and populate, with a Premium Customization Kit that includes D&D art, frames, and icons
•Private Message Boards that give you a direct line to D&D R&D
•Premium RPGA Membership Card mailed to you
•Fast Lane Registration at all RPGA events (online and in the real world)
•The Magic Shop, a virtual shop where you can outfit your D&D character

D&D Character Builder, a program that helps you create and manage your D&D characters. This program allows you to create a character for any D&D game, walking you through the process of rolling the dice and assigning your game statistics, as well as creating a visual version of your character using “paper doll” models and “drag and click” selections of armor and weapons. At the end, you can save your character and print out a character sheet, as well as go to any D&D tournament and call up your character for use, or use the character at the Virtual Gaming Table (see below). With this package, you get to create and store up to 10 different characters or up to 10 different versions of one character (your character at different levels), or some combination of the two.
•Exclusive D&D-related novels and short stories written by your favorite authors
•Real-World D&D Search Engines (find D&D gamers, game stores, tournaments, and events in your area)
•In-Game D&D Search Engines (find feats, spells, magic items, and other D&D-related topics)

Digital Gaming Table, a program that allows you to play D&D using the Internet as your kitchen table, with a viewable play surface, dice rolling, virtual miniatures, and voice chat. Now you don’t have to wait for your home gaming group to get together to play a game of D&D. You can still play your weekly face-to-face game, but now you can also play two or three more times a week by finding a game at the virtual table. Or, you might want to reconnect with your old gaming pals who long ago moved away-now you can all play together again on a regular basis!

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That is some really cool information. Thanks for posting. I’m especially looking forward to the character builder and D&D University.

I just hope that this has a reasonable cost.

Why could this not have been locally hosted instead of central server hosted? All I need is another leech on my wallet. They could simply make this locally hosted then charge for upgrades, like the pdf books etc.

Regarding the various proposed features of the D&D Insider, after the ill-fated fiasco that was the Master Tools program (later scaled down to a buggy character creator called E-Tools), I’ll believe it when I see it. And with all the currently available free softwares out there that already (collectively) most of these things, I think $10/month will be a hard sell for many – it better be REALLY good and really easy to use.

Depending on how it is designed, D&D Insider may make things easier for me and other blind D&D players like me. If I can enter a code or something to have access to the full contents of a book I have purchased, including core rule books, then it will be worth it to me, as long as the fee is not excessively high. All I ask is that if any antipiracy measure is used, that it not prevent the effectiveness of using screen reading technology to access the service.

I was excited, but all of these facts are alarming. 10 Characters? A fee for accessing books I own online? total bullshit. So so so disappointing. D&Ms and Players everywhere are weeping.

so dnd insider in replacing the dungeon magize which kinda scuks becuase i enjoyed haveing it to read away from the office. So now i’ll be on the internet all day.

Not worth it. I will still get the books, but the fun of DnD is interacting with other people. I am not paying 10 bucks a month for limited options. Ugh I understand they are in this for money but this is ridiculous. I will wait for Players Handbook2 to get the stats for the rest of the classes and races. Save me some ink, paper and money.

If one changes the point of view, it is so for both, Players and DM to keep hanging arround instead of playing from their computers.
However, 3rd Ed. and previous didn’t have Online support, players survived without it, so I don’t think it’s nessesary to suscribe to DNDInsider… Although, it might have come in handy

What I’d really like to know is the proposed system requirements – will you need to be running windows to use these tools?

The 10 charactor limit is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard of, we should be able to have as many as we want, 10 barely covers one of each core classes, less once they release more with the books. $10/month is a bit steep, especially considering all of the freeware dungeon tools out there.

They are obviously going for the market of people who try and RP on MMOs like World of Warcraft. MMO players are used to monthly subscriptions, and this still looks better for trying to play telecommute D&D than gathering on a game like WoW.

Wow, money money money

The Subscription Prices seem somewhat high to me.
The idea of paying for digital Minis is laughable and seems like a cynical attempt to squeeze even more cash out of people.

On the whole though it looks like good stuff – if they can actually consistantly deliver content to a high standard.

I was hoping they would start slow, say 5.95 monthly with an annual subscription. But limitations on player characters seems to be combining Guild Wars Characte Limit with the World of Warcraft expense.

I have been playing since AD&D and I was looking forward to finding online campaigns and online information – does everyone realize how difficult it is to sort through 3.5 to find all the spells/feats/races/classes/PrC that a dm may allow. I look forward to this making character research go much quicker. At my age, I don’t have the free time anymore.

Bring it on WOTC – I wonder how many things will change when it is released?

Another thing that is bugging me. As a DM since Basic and AD&D 1st edition I have learned not to allow characters from previous DM’s campaigns. Am I going to be able to at least review the characters coming in or require they roll up one specifically for my campaign that can ONLY be used for my campaign? I am big on continuity, characters are people, for lack of a better term, and unlike a MMO or other video game I don’t allow characters to leave the campaign as well as join from a different one. But of course I am a role-player, not a Hack/Slash Dungeon Crawler so maybe this is no longer the game for me.

I have been playing This game since Summer 1979. The money that I have spent (willingly) on any Product of the previous Editions was hard earned, and well spent. All material is stored on a shelf and I will be able to pick any book on the shelf and read it as long as my house does not burn down or something similar bad. The chance for that….1:10000000 or more.
I also had the chance of viewing the book/material before buying it. (Especially the Dragon and Dungeon Magazine, since not all printed articles have been of use to me and my group).

This new system does not offer any of the above mentioned options. Storing the Dragon Magazine and other E-Books on my computer does not enable me to pack them along on a trip, reading during a train or plane ride. (or at lunchbreak at work, on the beach or any other place away from home 8and I dont care to carry an expensive lap top along). Also, who out there in the community has never experienced any Computer problems like bugs anf viruses that destroyed or damaged the hard drive and its contents. Printing out a 60 page Dragon Magazine will cost a lot in paper and ink (in addition to the Online fee).
Fine, I am offered additional material. Does this mean that NON-ONLINE-Subscribers will not be able to buy the same material in form of a soft or hard cover book. Do we thus have a “two-class-gaming-community”. Those with all the good stuff (ONLINE SUBSCRIBERS) and those with out it (Old fashioned people like me who prefer a perfectly bound book or magazine printed on durable paper with ink that does not blur or wash of when it gets hit with a bit of water).

For me this whole thing stinks. Milk my wallet further, not being contend with all the hundreds of books (through all editions for more than 30 Years). I was perfectly willing to go along with the 4th Ed. and buy all, or most of the future products. But now I am beginning to have doubts. maybe I just keep playing 3.5 or even switch to one of my older systems and Editions.

Thanks for the great past 30 years. But I guess the line will stop here. to bad.

George

Hey I am out in regina, my good buddy is out in Victoria and my best friend is in northern Alberta (St. Paul) and my other friends are in Calgary… thats 760 km for me, 1200 km for my other friend, and 640 km for my best friend to get together in one location to have one session. the gas alone makes this worth the purchase. i agree that teh monthly thing is actually a bit steep. I think that initial purchase of their product is more than enough to pay for the central operation of teh site and it then gives them a forum for sale, presentation and advertising of all their future products.
If they should just provide free access to the D&DI site, tack like 50 cents onto the price of their products and make this a FEATURE that everyone can or can not use. Really they would be selling more people on the new product, creating a greater following for D&D, no one would say a thing about it sicne it is free and they get a platform for free advertising and direct sales to their clients.
IE: they make MORE MONEY off each sale, we don’t really pay any extra (cut the middleman so to speak) and there is now a new dynamic feature to gaming. i agree nothing replaces the home table… but when you can’t get teh group together at all… its just the only way this is gonig to work.

“D&D Insider assumes that a subscriber owns every product that WotC has published. As long as you subscribe, you’ll have complete access to everything in the rules database.”

^Sounds good to me. The rest is crap.
Then again, I don’t usually pay even $10 a month on D&D Books…but still it’d be nice.
I just don’t like the whole digital thing. All the big places now want you to buy digital content for real money, when the digital content can suddenly vanish. Thanks, but I’d rather buy a bit more than 0’s and 1’s.

This is a no brainer for me. I just drop my LoTR Online subscription and replace it with DDI. Then I’ll have something that I’ll actually play more than once every 2 months. :)

My friends and I were totally bumped out, when we heard that it would be a monthly payment, because we live miles from each other now, and maybe only would be able to play once a month, because of our jobs and all the studying…! Why not only pay fees for upgrades, and a onetime fee for the program itself? And why a limit on characters? As WotC says: “it’s not about limits, but opportunities!” It would also be great, if the program didn’t rely on the DDI server, but could be used through a switch, so players didn’t have to be online, if they just wanted to bring that extra touch in to their gaming nights.

As one of my friends said when he heard it: “The character program could just be on a disk that came with the PH and the dungeon program with the DMG. Surely WotC have to charge more for the books, but then again, lot lees then 9.95$/mo…” We know that WotC is a company that feeds on money like any other, but we also think that the company needs to be loyal to its players, and not ride the MMO wave of greediness…

To sum up:
-We hope for an offline able program, that’s affordable for everyone, to give the maximum gaming experience.-

PS: We are not angry, just disappointed…!!

A Danish gaming group

I’m quite disappointed that this isn’t a stand alone program. I was really looking forward to plugging in my lap top and projector and running my dungeons/encounters on that. This allows all my players to see whats going on a lot easier. I’ve found it really hard to simulate AOE and light sources and flying creatures.
WotC – You’ve got it wrong, you’ve made the game a lot quicker and simpler (FANTASTIC), but an online only subscription based program is horrific. Yes some will pay & play, but you’ve got tonnes of loyal fans that will be very disappointed. All they get is a change of rules and a lighter wallet. Please reconsider this direction and make the dungeon/character program just that, a program. I’d buy it, without even thinking about it.
Hopefully,
Adam
DM for over 15 years.

Sorry, but this whole thing stinks!

What might have sold me into going back to D&D (been playing since ye good ol’ D&D and AD&D 1st Edition times, but opted out shortly after 3.0) was the virtual gaming table!

Chances for some ‘normal’ roleplaying are pretty slim, due mostly to potential groups living like 1.5 hrs of train ride away.

So the option of just meeting online would have been fun…

Alas, why would I/them/we pay like $15 per month for playing once per week?

Of course in theory I/them/we could play way more often than once per week… assuming that one joins a number of groups!

Which might be fun for testing a larger number of characters but if you have one character you really like, well, the whole multi-group/character concept becomes pointless… unless you want to splinter your character into a number of facets: character x from group a, character x from group b, etc.

Nah, really: for the same price I can sign up with some MMORPG (actually I managed to grab some timecards for one of them for half price so that option costs actually less) and play 7 nights a week.

Granted, that’s not real roleplaying… but really, the latest incarnations of D&D are far removed from the good ol’ roleplaying fun I was having some decades ago…

So nah, I think I’ll waste my money on something else…

People. Unless you live very far from your play group, you have no reason to complain. If you don’t like the system, then stay with the system you are using. One group I was in didn’t switch off of AD&D (essentially 2.0) until 3.5 was introduced. We were comfortable with the current set of rules and we stuck with them. This global update doesn’t require you to switch to 4.0, it doesn’t even require you to use the online tool to play.
I understand why you’re complaining about it: the monthly cost is really ridiculous, but claiming you’re going to “quit the game forever” because WotC is trying to make a source of recurring revenue? Why don’t you just stick with 3.5, or play 4.0 on a tabletop
I can imagine that there are a lot of 3rd party tabletop programs out there that help facilitate dungeon crawling. I haven’t done the research, but I can nearly guarantee that in a few Google searches I’ll find something that could work similarly and is free or a one-time charge.
WotC is offering continuous content and dynamic updating as well as a system for people who can’t easily get together to play. That is worth a monthly charge, but it’s not for everyone. If you aren’t in that demographic, stop complaining.
I’m buying the books and that’s where it ends for me. I’m OK with that for now. If my situation changes, I’ll figure out what to do then.

There IS another way, folks.

Split the costs among your group. If your group isn’t geographically challenged and can regularly play together, split the cost among yourselves to buy one year’s subscription.

For instance, my group has seven players and one DM. 8 people each pay $15 once into a DnD kitty = $120. $15 for the year isn’t bad at all. As my group are all friends, the sub name and password would be shared.

A smaller group of say 4 players and the DM (5 people) would each pay $24.

Where there’s a will, there’s a way.

Good idea but there’s no way in hell I’m subscribing to play DnD. I’m sure there’s people out there willing to clone this “Digital Table” and offer it for free as well as open source which will eventually ruin your sales.

access to the books is pretty nice though.

Actually, there is no need to clone the gaming table. There already are many gaming table solutions out there. I can think of two of them off the top of my head that are free, and open source.

Wizards better provide a very nice table in order to trump the free ones, and all of the versions out there that are feature rich and cost little.

So maybe I’ll purchase two less coffee drinks a month if I want my expenditures to remain level. I like the idea of having all this paperwork online. It is no longer appealing to dig through all those books.
So when is the DnD insider actually going online?

when and where ? insider

Well after reading this I have to say I am extremely disappointed by the features of D&D Insider. I guess it’s acceptable if your friends don’t live nearby, but otherwise it’s not worth it. I may have only played this game for ten years, but I played it almost every day and was expecting something better than this. Besides I am not going to pay a monthly fee just to play with people I don’t even know if I can trust to not to do something that may ruin the game for the other players. I have friends in my school who play, I have a friend nearby that wants to learn, and I have a father who enjoys it as much as I do so I don’t see the point of it for me. Anyway I agree with George in that it is disappointing that the streak of quality in the D&D games has to be traded off to “squeeze more money from our wallets” but I guess that there is nothing that can be done. I’ll still play but I am not going to pay for this “D&D Insider” scam so all I can say is: nice try. Overall this is a dissatisfactory end product so don’t pay for it unless you have to.

For all of you disappointed fans, whom probably already know this if you pay attention to D&D’s home site. But they just released information on the pricing, and it looks like after the 10 day free trial, it will be 8 bucks a month if you pay seperately, and 5 bucks a month if you pay for a year at a time. This includes the Character Visualizer, Compendium, Game Table, Subscription to both Dungeon and Dragon magazines online. So cry not fellow gamers, for merely a subscription fee for a magazine you can connect to the world of D&D.

I think it will be great to play online with the game table.

Okay to be honest I am really disappointed and somewhat angered by WotC. It has been 3 years since they said they would give us the VTT and no word of it. Not a single ****ing word. Honestly, I am not going to be a part of the DnDi until they actually follow through with their announcements. I will still buy my 4e stuff but that’s all they will get out of me.

I can understand R&D on the TOOLSET demo for D&D. But really has the PLUG BEEN pulled on this project with all the R&D done on it. I can find no reference to this project being shut down besides roomers.

Could I get a strait answer, I appears to be a great TOOL but with out it some gamers are left to finding a game when there SHIPPED overseas or deployed to a war zone. Some gamers like myself thought it was awsome way to never end the game.

LOVE D&D!!!